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Post by Dr FJ on Jul 21, 2011 13:55:47 GMT -5
All you need to do to ask a question is to click on the general board and in the upper right corner "Start a New Thread"
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Post by qmagnumq on Jul 23, 2011 10:14:53 GMT -5
I think this site is a great idea! If I can help in anyway, let me know. My wife is a Maximized Living cult member  and I am living the nightmare of logic and confusion. I have the ML scripts and read them from time to time just to amuse myself ;D Let us hope that people seeking chiropractic treatment, find this site and ask questions before being scammed. Thanks! |
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Post by Dr FJ on Jul 25, 2011 13:15:25 GMT -5
Is your wife a patient or a chiro?
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Post by qmagnumq on Jul 27, 2011 19:19:59 GMT -5
Patient.
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Post by Dr FJ on Jul 28, 2011 9:42:00 GMT -5
Do you have any questions about her care and problems that I can help you with. Anything at all?
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Post by qmagnumq on Jul 28, 2011 10:38:31 GMT -5
No...sadly, I have questioned the crap out of this and still can't figure out why she is so insistent on being seen once a week (our two boys as well) for an adjustment. He has sold her an idea that her health will be better in the long run if her spine is perfectly aligned. The problem I have been trying to tell her is 1) your spine will never be perfect 2) nerve interference do to subluxations is a bogus idea that has been disproved. The only thing positive about the Maximized Living scam is they do tell you to eat healthy. Well duh...I don't need to spend $3000 a year to be told that! They do go over board with the "don't eat this and don't eat that" and you are left wondering if anything you eat is safe! They use a lot of fear tactics in their office. I did go in (to appease my wife) and was taken through the well scripted routine. There is always a counter point to anything you say. For example: If you suggest that you feel fine, they will say "for now...but over time these subluxations will affect your organs" I told him I would like my MD to see the xrays that he took of my spine. He came back with "MD's are not trained to look for the things we can see and they are the puppets of big pharma." It seems there is always a "we are great because they are evil" feel to the script. I saw a video at the "doctors report" session (which I now call the "cult indoctrination process" ) that spent 20 mins. showing us how bad pharmaceuticals are and how MD's only treat the symptoms not the cause. I have been helped by a chiropractor before. I had lower back pain...went for a 3 or 4 visits...I got better. He gave me some core strengthening exercises and said to come back if it acts up again...This is the same DC that my wife went to before the ML guy caught her attention in a mall display. He actually said to her that her current DC was not doing enough for her. I don't know about you, but I would be pretty peeved if someone took a client away for me with that tactic! Cheers! |
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Post by Dr FJ on Jul 28, 2011 13:27:04 GMT -5
That sounds brutal. There is very little evidence that supports the cervical curve theory and I guarantee that the ML chiro isn't trained in that technique. I would be interested to find out where the ML chiro did his ML program. Who did he pay 3,000 to get his curve corrected. I find that most ML docs have never even undergone their own program. I would challenge him sometime to take an xray of his own neck and see what it looks like.
I would also ask the doctor for objective evidence as to why he needs to adjust her every week? She should have already undergone the rehab so shouldn't the spine be holding the adjustments? Objective evidence is something that neither the patient nor the doctor can influence. I will already tell you that he doesn't have objective evidence but it would be interesting to hear his reply. I get adjusted 1x/week and so does my family but its free as well. If I was paying cash then we would get adjusted when we needed to. This must be costing a small fortune.
He is correct in the fact that MDs do only treat symptoms however there is no evidence that shows that he is adjusting the cause of everything.
There are generally 3 types of busy chiropractors. Those who use fear, those who get results in an environment that the patient is comfortable in, and those who can sell ice to eskimos.
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Post by qmagnumq on Jul 28, 2011 17:55:48 GMT -5
There are generally 3 types of busy chiropractors. Those who use fear, those who get results in an environment that the patient is comfortable in, and those who can sell ice to eskimos. That appears to be a very accurate statement... 
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and I am living the nightmare of logic and confusion.